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Overview The Sims 2 Mac: An awe-inspiring sequel to one of the best sims simulator video game is now available for Mac platform. The Sims 2 free download is no doubt a legendary real life simulation video game based on different characters. Icing on cake, you can now set goals for your sims and test their abilities.

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• edited March 2019

  Hi,
  EA will no longer support Windows 32-bit version and macOS with OpenGL after June 2019.
  All the packs released after February 2019 (After GP07 StrangerVille) will require Windows 64-bit or mac OS with Metal !
  The Sims 4 Legacy Edition (Windows 32-bit and macOS OpenGL only) will be released in June 2019.

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• I thought they already required 64 bit on Windows since Cats and Dogs? I know Cats and Dogs require 64-bit windows to run.

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• edited March 2019

  @ChelleJo
  EP04 Cats & Dogs is also 32-bit and will work with The Sims 4 Legacy Edition.
  GP07 StrangerVille is officially the very last pack released for Windows 32-bit.
  
• edited March 2019

  Hey,
  Leaving this link here, as you can read the details and FAQ in there - hopefully that will help clarify any questions >> https://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Information/The-Sims-4-Update-on-Supported-Systems/m-p/7629115#M11425

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• Basically any pack before June 2019 will work will the classic edition. No patches or updates after for the classic edition, wow
• I'm guessing the regular TS4 version will be like a The Sims 4.2. Since they still plan to have a few more years of content, they have to abandon the obsolete tech that TS4 initially supported in order to move forward. 🤔

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• S4 will no longer support 32 bit PC or MAC non Metal OS.
  
  Here's the direct link to the article for those who may not be able to open it without Twitter.
  https://www.platinumsimmers.com/articles/the-sims-4-update-on-supported-operating-systems/
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• @Chazzzy
  In the AHQ thread Simburian posted is a link to Apple's site where you can check whether your Mac supports Metal.

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• 
  Someone posted this on a Discord I'm in might be helpful here.
  

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• @crinrict or @luthienrising might have some input on this.
• edited March 2019

  This is big news!

  
  It sure is as some may have to dig deep to come up to standard meaning some may have to buy an new system and some may not if they are able to use what they currently have by adding more memory and changing to an 64 bit OS.

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• edited March 2019

  So I play on an iMac via Windows Bootcamp. My iMac passes the Mac specs for Metal, but how do I check the PC side to make sure it'll still work? Or am I okay because the Mac side passed? How do you check if your Windows is in 32 bit mode?
  ETA: Nvm, just checked and I'm in 64
• Okay, probably a stupid question: If my Sims 4 file is within the Program Files (x86) file, does that mean I'm already playing TS4 in 64-bit and I'm good?

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• Okay, probably a stupid question: If my Sims 4 file is within the Program Files (x86) file, does that mean I'm already playing TS4 in 64-bit and I'm good?

  
  Yes, it does

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• is this good or bad news? I can't tell...

  
  For people who aren't still on 32-bit systems, I believe it's very good news. Development will no longer be constrained by having to meet performance standards on a 32-bit system. I'm hoping this means good things to come for complex systems and world size, for example.
  For people who are stuck on a 32-bit system for now, it's not good news. Whatever they have when the Legacy game comes out is what they'll be staying with. For them, Sims 4 will have ended development; they won't be able to buy packs that come out after this change happens. That is likely to include *new* mods or mod updates as well. Their current mods and CC will continue to work, but it's unlikely that mod and CC developers will make new content that works with the Legacy base once the regular base patches again. It sounds very much like whatever current bugs they have, they will also be stuck with. Hopefully, for their sake we'll see some major bug fixes before June! On the plus side, when they are able to replace with a 64-bit system, they'll be able to download the updated game from Maxis and carry on.
  For people who think they're getting Sims 5 soon or who 'need' it, I'm pretty sure this is bad news. It's a good sign that Sims 4 development is planned for a considerable-length future.

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• So I play on an iMac via Windows Bootcamp. My iMac passes the Mac specs for Metal, but how do I check the PC side to make sure it'll still work? Or am I okay because the Mac side passed? How do you check if your Windows is in 32 bit mode?
  ETA: Nvm, just checked and I'm in 64

  
  @Chazzzy I copied this from the article:
  How do I know if I have a 32-bit system or a 64-bit system?
  If you are on Windows 8 or 10, you can press the Windows key + I, go to System, then go to About. Under device specifications you can see your system type
  
• edited March 2019

  is this good or bad news? I can't tell...

  
  For people who aren't still on 32-bit systems, I believe it's very good news. Development will no longer be constrained by having to meet performance standards on a 32-bit system. I'm hoping this means good things to come for complex systems and world size, for example.
  For people who are stuck on a 32-bit system for now, it's not good news. Whatever they have when the Legacy game comes out is what they'll be staying with. For them, Sims 4 will have ended development; they won't be able to buy packs that come out after this change happens. That is likely to include *new* mods or mod updates as well. Their current mods and CC will continue to work, but it's unlikely that mod and CC developers will make new content that works with the Legacy base once the regular base patches again. It sounds very much like whatever current bugs they have, they will also be stuck with. Hopefully, for their sake we'll see some major bug fixes before June! On the plus side, when they are able to replace with a 64-bit system, they'll be able to download the updated game from Maxis and carry on.
  For people who think they're getting Sims 5 soon or who 'need' it, I'm pretty sure this is bad news. It's a good sign that Sims 4 development is planned for a considerable-length future.

  
  Well two and a half years at least. We know this already, and the elimination of 32bit support was probably planned just as far in advance. Unlikely the announcement today will affect the long term plans they announced almost a year ago. I mean unless you are just reiterating, or authenticating the “three more years of content” I really just don’t see your point.
  ETA- regardless I think it’s good news overall. No reason they should be forever limited by old hardware, especially when they’ve had the capability to do more since 2015. I can’t begin to assume what 64bit-only packs will entail, but if that means something as simple as a lift on the small world size it would be a benefit. I don’t suppose this will mean they will immediately come out with complex packs that exceed what they could do with 32bit, but time will tell.
• edited March 2019

  is this good or bad news? I can't tell...

  
  It's definitely good, I really doubt anyone here is playing on a Pentium 4, regardless, if you have a 32-bits processor the chances are really high that your PC can't run The Sims 4 anyway.
  Now they don't have to be constrained by the lowest of the low end when thinking of new content, and if they are going out of the way to drop support for 32-bits, then they are planning on taking advantage of this.

• Okay, probably a stupid question: If my Sims 4 file is within the Program Files (x86) file, does that mean I'm already playing TS4 in 64-bit and I'm good?

  
  Yes, it does

  
  Thank you for the confirmation!

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• edited March 2019

  It's the best news since they announced to create a 64 bit game version
  They now don't need to focus on having it to make run on 2 GB RAM anymore
  There's a few things you need to know (don't know about Mac)
  

  • Since Cats & Dogs, the minimum requirements have been raised anyways. Only difference: You could technically still play the game. It ran slow and big dogs made the game crash but you could still play. The way I understand it, you will now not even be able to install Sims 4 on a 32 bit system after the change.
  • The Upgrade to 64 bit is free for Win 7, Win 8.1 and Win 10. You will need to reinstall your operating system but your key is valid for both version. So there's no extra costs unless you want to get more RAM or you are still running Windows XP
  • The game currently recommends to start the game in 32 bit if you have 4 GB RAM or less. If you have 4 GB, you can still use the 64 bit version but since it had no advantages, the gamer recommended 32 bit.
  • There have been so many crashing reports for 32 bit OS on AHQ. If you play your game for a long while, the 2 GB limit is reached very fast.
  • There are computers out there that don't have the architecture to run 64 bit OS but I believe those belong in a museum.
  • Most people will not be affected by this in any way and it makes life easier.
  • For those really not able to afford a new system, there's the legacy edition which you will be able to still play everything you paid for already. I know, no patches and no new packs but as the new packs already ask for 64 bit, that's not really much of a change.

  
  So, for people stuck on a 32 bit OS. WHY are you stuck ? Do you only have 2 GB of RAM ? If you're unsure about all this, feel free to come over to AHQ, give us your specs and we can help you out figuring out the best way to go. There's also a Mac forum for those of you concerned about that:

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While not everyone’s cup of tea, it is undeniable how popular The Sims franchise is. Hell, I’ll go ahead and admit there was a brief period in my life when all I played was The Sims. Create a Sim, build a house, get a job, make friends, find love, all in the comfort of your computer.

But a lot has changed since the heady days of the 2000s and after 3 main entries and countless expansions, developer Maxis has now delivered The Sims 4, one of the most addictive simulation games for Mac.

The Sims 4 is currently $4.99 on Amazon. This is the lowest it has ever been, don’t miss it!

In this review:

The premise is the same, yet the Sims 4 creates more depth and introduces new mechanics, features, and vastly improved graphics. Speaking of graphics, this is a game that looks surprisingly good on a high-end Mac at the highest settings. But what if you have an older Mac or an entry-level model?

I’m here to help you answer those questions. And as we always do, we will be testing the game on 4 different Macs, ranging from the new and powerful to the older and more basic models.

First things first, is the game any good?

With the enormous success of every Sims game ever released, The Sims 4 should have been flooded with pre-orders. But with the catastrophic launch of SimCity, fans were cautious.

So did The Sims 4 delivered? Is it as good as its predecessors? Reviewers can’t seem to agree. The game has a 70/100 Metascore, which is good but not great:

But taking a closer look at some of the reviews, a trend begins to emerge. Gamespot gave it a 6/10 score, concluding that:

The Sims 4’s biggest problem is that The Sims 3 exists. […] This is a lovely and lively game that elicits constant smirks, but The Sims 4’s moments never feel like part of a bigger picture.

But here’s where it gets tricky. Everyone agrees The Sims 3 had more to do, yet The Sims 4 has more depth:

Yet The Sims 4 does succeed in being a deep and complex game when it comes to Sim interactions, with lots of entertaining emotional potential. The emotions system and its contextual actions are really strong.

Plus, excellent building tools make architecture more fun than ever.

When looking at the user reviews (on Metacritic, as the game is not available on Steam), it doesn’t look good for The Sims 4. The game has a 4/10 average score of over 2100 users. Again, for the same reasons: the world is too small and there aren’t enough things to do…

My take? If you haven’t played The Sims 3, that could be a better place to start. It will be cheaper, will have more Expansions (and things to do) and will be even less demanding on your Mac.

If you have, The Sims 4 should have enough depth and new features to be worth a shot, especially now that enough Expansions have been released that add more stuff to do.

The Sims 4 Mac requirements

These are The Sims 4 Mac system requirements:

• OS: 10.7.5
• Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz Processor
• Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 320M, 9600M, 9400M, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro or better. Video RAM of 256MB or better.
• Memory: 4GB RAM
• Hard Drive: 10 GB of Hard Drive space

Warning: You’ll be forced to use EA’s Origins client (which I deeply dislike)

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The Test: Can you play The Sims 4 on Mac?

To evaluate how well The Sims 4 runs, we’ll test it on these models:

• MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2016): 2.0 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB RAM, Intel Iris Graphics 540 (1.5GB)
• iMac (5K, 27-inch, Late 2014): 3.5 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB RAM, AMD Radeon R9 M290X (2GB)
• Mac Mini (Late 2014): 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB RAM, Intel Iris 5100 (1.5GB)
• MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012): 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB RAM, GeForce GT 650M (1GB)

Be aware that the system requirements are not perfectly clear regarding integrated graphics. Are the 2012 MacBook Pro and 2014 Mac Mini supported? More on that below.

Why these machines? Our purpose is to help you understand how well this game runs on different setups. And hopefully, one of these setups will be similar enough to yours to give you a very clear idea of what to expect. These are the setups we will be covering:

• Recent high-end Macs (the 2014 iMac).
• Recent entry-level Macs (the 2016 MacBook Pro).
• Older Macs (the 2012 MacBook Pro and the 2014 Mac Mini).

These are the settings we used to test The Sims 4 using our in-house FPS counter Count It for a fixed duration of 5 minutes:

• 1280×800 resolution
• Graphics Quality: Medium
• Vertical Sync: Off
• Retina display: Off

Why these settings? Remember, we are testing vastly different machines. Some high-end, some not. 1280×800 and Medium settings won’t impress anyone, but they are acceptable and should meet the requirements of the average gamer.

The Results: A surprisingly easy game to run!

There were reports of poor Mac performance that had me worried, but it seems the reports were a little overboard (or perhaps Maxis has improved the macOS version over the years):

The target? This chart includes the average frames per second (FPS) recorded on each machine. We usually aim for 30 FPS, because 30 FPS is enough to guarantee a smooth and fluid experience.

Some readers argue that 30 FPS is not high enough, but it’s still what current-gen consoles aim for, and considering most Macs were not built for gaming, 30 FPS is a good target.

As a reminder, this is how we describe the different levels of performance:

• Below 20 FPS: Unplayable: Laggy gameplay, full of stutters and slowdowns.
• 20-30 FPS: Borderline: Can be OK in slow-paced games. Still, not optimal.
• 30-45 FPS: Playable: Acceptable for most (most gaming consoles do this).
• 45-60 FPS: Smooth: Fluid gameplay, with no perceivable stutters.
• 60+ FPS: Very Smooth: For hardcore and professional players, a luxury for most.

We usually aim for 30 FPS, because 30 FPS is enough to guarantee a smooth and fluid experience.

You’ll notice all Macs did better than 30 FPS, which is a good thing, but let’s dive deeper into the results and see how far The Sims 4 can be pushed.

Can my Mac run The Sims 4?

The real question is not whether a high-end Mac can play this game. We know it will.

Haters may claim Macs can’t run games, but if you have a recent high-end Mac with a dedicated graphics card with 2GB of Video RAM (or more), you can safely play ANY game that exists on macOS.

The real question is: How high can you increase the graphics settings while still experiencing a smooth experience?

Case in point, my 2014 iMac’s results. While nowhere near as fast as the latest iMacs, it still ran the game at 60 FPS using the Medium settings defined for these tests. And it only did 60 FPS because the game locked frame rates at 60 FPS maximum.

But what happens when we bump the graphics to make The Sims 4 shine? When increasing the settings to Ultra and raising the resolution to 2560×1440, the iMac still ran the game at 56.2 FPS.

Take away: If you have a high-end Mac, you can expect to smoothly play this game at the highest settings.

Can you play The Sims 4 on a MacBook Pro?

This is when things get complicated. Many of us own $1500+ MacBook Pros we believe to be high end (otherwise, how can you justify that price?). Unfortunately, they are not, at least when it comes to graphics performance.

I’m not here to criticize Apple’s choices. They decided that mobility and battery life come first, which is great for most users, but bad for gamers.

Anyway, having an entry-level Mac means you have integrated graphics. And that means gaming performance will be limited. But how limited? It depends on the game.

In this case, The Sims 4 did great on my 13-inch MacBook Pro. The game ran at 54.9 FPS, which is almost double our 30 FPS target.

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These results mean you could slightly increase the graphics settings and still get a smooth experience out of The Sims 4. I did two more tests on high and ultra settings, and as expected, there was still some room (although ultra is a little too much):

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• 1280×800 and high settings: 44.5 FPS
• 1280×800 and ultra settings: 24.1 FPS

Take away: The Sims 4 is properly optimized for macOS and not particularly demanding. Any recent Mac should be able to handle it, even those with integrated graphics.

But what if you have an older Mac?

According to our results, there is hope for you. Our test 2014 Mac Mini ran the game at 45.40 FPS, which is way above our target. If your Mac is even older than that, it will depend on your machine’s graphics. If you have dedicated graphics, like our 2012 15-inch MacBook Pro, you should be fine.

And if you don’t and worry yours won’t be able to take it, you can always try Stardew Valley, an excellent, albeit different, simulation game that supports macOS.

Take away: If your Mac has integrated graphics, anything older than the Intel Iris 5100 from our Mac Mini will be risky. If your Mac has dedicated graphics, any model from 2012 onwards should be fine.

Bottom line: Turns out, The Sims 4 is a forgiving game that should run just fine on most Macs out there (unless you have a pre-2012 Mac with integrated graphics)…

Maxis did a good job optimizing the game, but this is an inherently simple game (graphics-wise) that is not meant to push your machine to the max. After all, there are plenty of other games out there for that!

PS: These are our favorite accessories for playing/testing games on Mac!

Download The Sims 4 for Mac

The Sims 4 is available for download from several digital stores including Origin and MMOGA:

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